tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post3114679211777348834..comments2023-07-05T07:30:57.068-07:00Comments on Lactic Acid Threshold: A Few Beam ShotsJameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02831020497002806444noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-5049141369761345852010-06-16T20:46:33.705-07:002010-06-16T20:46:33.705-07:00Oh, I totally agree and love seeing them. I'm...Oh, I totally agree and love seeing them. I'm just saying that as the lights get brighter, the beamshots get less and less accurate. I noticed that when I took some beamshots of my Dinotte 1200L. I have some pretty high end camera gear (all professional stuff) and when looking at the beamshots I realized that much of the subtlety was lost - especially in the spill.JohnJ80noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-70859201501420352332010-06-16T09:44:52.164-07:002010-06-16T09:44:52.164-07:00JohnJ80,
True, but it's the only tool I have...JohnJ80, <br /><br />True, but it's the only tool I have to demonstrate the differences visually.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02831020497002806444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-89669993493997835432010-06-16T09:41:54.089-07:002010-06-16T09:41:54.089-07:00Just a note on beamshots - as these lights get bri...Just a note on beamshots - as these lights get brighter and brighter and there is more contrast between the dark and light, the beamshots will be less representative. A digital camera can only process about 5-6 f-stops of light and the human eye can see about 20 (each f-stop represents a doubling of light). So, the beam shot is really a gross (and getting grosser) approximation of what the light will really do.JohnJ80noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-34401114589044678282009-12-05T12:23:48.743-08:002009-12-05T12:23:48.743-08:00Anon:
Yes.
I'll have a list of the included...Anon:<br /><br />Yes. <br /><br />I'll have a list of the included lights in the coming weeks.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02831020497002806444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-33254262376930518392009-12-05T12:16:50.797-08:002009-12-05T12:16:50.797-08:00Any chance that we are going to see the 2010 LED B...Any chance that we are going to see the 2010 LED Bike Lights Comprehensive Review?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-90318973384016340772009-12-01T20:21:16.018-08:002009-12-01T20:21:16.018-08:00Great line up of beam shots. I have both the NR tr...Great line up of beam shots. I have both the NR tri-newt and the Betty (waiting for the cree upgrade). Gave the newt to the wife. The NR 1200 beam pattern looks spectacular. As bright as the betty is, I really miss the beam pattern of the tri-newt. Betty is a little narrow and does not feel twice-plus as bright as the tri-newt. Beam pattern is everything.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14233544834102475189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-44770703855901180292009-11-12T07:33:42.683-08:002009-11-12T07:33:42.683-08:00I'd love to see a comparison between the Niter...I'd love to see a comparison between the Niterider 1200 and the Dinotte 1200L. I have one of the 1200L's and have been pretty pleased with it. <br /><br />The beamshot of the NR 1200 is really something! I may have to check one of those out. Do you have any information or pictures on how the battery mounts to the bike? I'm concerned about cable routing etc...<br /><br />From these beamshots, looks to me like the Magicshine is somewhere slightly south of the Dinotte 400L. Does that seem about right?JohnJ80https://www.blogger.com/profile/05874539253926097373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-4897722711761657912009-11-11T09:53:15.844-08:002009-11-11T09:53:15.844-08:00Ok all, I've got information from NiteRider re...Ok all, I've got information from NiteRider regarding their LEDs. <br /><br />They are using the Cree MCE in the Pro Series lights. <br /><br />There you have it.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02831020497002806444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-36929287319276787712009-11-10T18:54:45.031-08:002009-11-10T18:54:45.031-08:00radirpok,
Good catch, I'll fix that. That...radirpok, <br /><br />Good catch, I'll fix that. That's what I get for rushing and posting a spec without double checking. <br /><br />As for the 1200L, I'm looking into it and will keep you posted.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02831020497002806444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-5409570897808097092009-11-10T13:57:21.488-08:002009-11-10T13:57:21.488-08:00By the way, will you have the Dinotte 1200L? That ...By the way, will you have the Dinotte 1200L? That would be another light to go against the Betty...Gabor Kulcsarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07213230337310984227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-76496874686522666892009-11-10T13:23:02.675-08:002009-11-10T13:23:02.675-08:00"...this is an older Betty, not the new 1400 ..."...this is an older Betty, not the new 1400 lumen (claimed) version"<br />-> the new <b>1750 lumen</b> (claimed) version ;-)<br /><br />The Magicshine I have (straight from DX) has a noticeably wider spot than the Tesla. It also looks brighter because of that, and is a bit better suited for handlebar mounted offroad riding.<br />The Tesla however has the penetrating spot... which means above a certain speed the advantage is there. Road or helmet mounted the Tesla is the one to go with.<br />I have to say though that the difference is minimal, both lights are very good if you are going to have a single light only mounted to your handlebar.Gabor Kulcsarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07213230337310984227noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-84076251552788525992009-11-09T18:20:48.573-08:002009-11-09T18:20:48.573-08:00Anon,
Aside from the info provided by ab138501 (...Anon, <br /><br />Aside from the info provided by ab138501 (via MTBR) I do not know. I can tell you that the reflectors used on the NiteRider Pro series lights are very trick. <br /><br />I'll contact NR and see if they are willing to give out the info on the emitters. Some companies will, others will not, so no promises.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02831020497002806444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-24095209981533108492009-11-09T17:44:29.015-08:002009-11-09T17:44:29.015-08:00I think there is a possibility that the Niterider ...I think there is a possibility that the Niterider Pro lights use a different emitter than the Lupine Tesla and the Magic Shine.<br /><br />My understanding is that the Lupine Tesla and the Magic Shine use the Seoul Semiconductor Z-Power P7 LED (http://www.seoulsemicon.com/en/product/prd/zpowerLEDp7.asp).<br /><br />I have seen a rumor that the Niterider Pro lights use the Cree MCE LED (http://www.cree.com/products/xlamp_mce.asp).<br /><br />One reference for the rumor about the Niterider Pro lights is http://forums.mtbr.com/showpost.php?p=6235179&postcount=6<br /><br />Disclaimer: I wasn't able to find any other information and the post on forums.mtbr.com may not be right.ab138501https://www.blogger.com/profile/08479347833885547478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8524479.post-9498133556031084712009-11-09T15:09:44.213-08:002009-11-09T15:09:44.213-08:00Thanks for the shots!
Wow--that's surprising ...Thanks for the shots!<br /><br />Wow--that's surprising how much difference there is between the NR Pro600, MS, and Tesla (specifically the Tesla/MS vs NR), all which use the same emitter.<br /><br />What can you tell us about where the differences come from: emitter bins, optics/reflector efficiency, drive current, etc.? I'd be particularly interested to hear what the voltage/current specs are for the three.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com